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Three senators discussed the future under President-elect Trump at an event Tuesday evening. Elizabeth Rickert | Hatchet Photographer

Three senators discussed the future under President-elect Trump at an event Tuesday evening. Elizabeth Rickert | Hatchet Photographer

This post was written by reporter Elizabeth Georgakopolous.

To address some of those questions left after the unexpected victory of President-elect Donald Trump, the School of Media and Public Affairs hosted a conversation with Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., and Dana Bash, alumna and CNN chief political correspondent, Tuesday evening on the aftermath of the election and the uncertainties of a Trump administration.

The panelists discussed many key issues on Trump, including how the senate could act as a check on the incoming president and what this election result could mean for the future of America.

Here are some highlights:

1. On the road ahead

All three senators agreed that Trump’s election will lead to a different type of presidency that features a note of uncertainty.

“There is an unpredictable nature of this presidency. That is the part that is shaking everyone up and people are expecting things to be different,” Lankford, the only Republican on the panel, said. “I expect he will follow through on some of the campaign promises, but not all.”

Coons said that throughout a Trump administration, the senate is going to be more important than it was ever before to act as a check against Trump and any proposals he makes that go against what the majority of Americans really want.

Klobuchar said that even though the Republicans have the majority in Congress, the Democrats will still have power. Most legislation needs 60 votes to pass and because 48 seats in the senate belong to Democrats, their influence rests in the remaining votes needed for that majority, she said.

2. Fears among the American people

There is a great deal of fear among Americans, especially those who have been affected by Trump’s rhetoric and proposals for the nation, the panelists said.

Klobuchar said many of those fears stem from a breakdown between politics and policy. She said that the way Trump treats people, his use of social media, and his policies will have the greatest impact on the country.

Bash said the biggest issue is that the campaign has evolved into a presidency, and Trump cannot continue to act as he did on the campaign trail. She said he needs to learn how to act more presidentially, which means not tweeting everything he thinks and not making unsupported claims.

“Campaigning is one thing, but governing is another,” Bash said.

Klobuchar agreed with Bash and said that U.S. laws and traditions will prevent Trump from following through on most of what he calls for on social media, like stripping citizenship from those who burn the American flag.

“The law is greater any tweets,” he said. “The law is greater than anyone’s rhetoric.”

Lankford said the president is the leader of a co-equal part among three branches and does not have as much power as the role is perceived to have. He said this means people do not need to be as worried as they currently are for any long-lasting policy changes because there are other branches of government to ensure all policies are constitutional and not reckless.

3. Advice for the future

All three senators said they will stay involved in politics and encourage people to not let the events of this past election deter them from participating in politics.

“We need you to be watchdogs. We need you to urge us to action and we need people to volunteer and be a part of the system,” Klobuchar said.

Lankford said that it is important to be interested in policy, just as much as politics.

“Politics is the job interview and policy is the job. Be more interested in the job than the job interview,” he said. “We are America and we will work this out.”

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School of Media and Public Affairs Director Frank Sesno, right, moderated a panel on political discussions during Alumni Weekend. Ivonne Rodriguez | Hatchet Photographer

School of Media and Public Affairs Director Frank Sesno, right, moderated a panel on political discussions during Alumni Weekend. Ivonne Rodriguez | Hatchet Photographer

This post was written by Hatchet reporter Meredith Roaten.

About 100 alumni ended an event-filled weekend on campus with a brunch immediately followed by a political discourse panel in Jack Morton Auditorium Sunday.

Frank Sesno, the director of the School of Media and Public Affairs, moderated a conversation among panelists about the current election.

“Politics are boring,” Sesno joked. “The candidates have nothing to say about each other certainly. And there are no outsides forces exerting any influences.”

Sesno posed questions to the panelists before taking questions from the audience of alumni. The audience was also asked to participate in polls using electronic clickers to facilitate the discussion.

Here are some of the highlights from the panel:

1. Clinton’s emails

Bill Press, radio host of The Bill Press Show, brought up recent developments in the FBI’s investigation into Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s emails. Press said he felt that FBI Director James Comey made a mistake announcing the investigation of the emails found on Anthony Weiner’s phone between his wife, Huma Abedin, and Clinton.

“If anybody here wants to start a crowdfunding campaign to send Anthony Weiner to Siberia with his computer, I’m in,” Press said.

Lara Brown, the interim director of the Graduate School of Political Management, said that Comey was trying to save his reputation after the pushback he received from his decision not to pursue prosecution for Clinton earlier this year.

When the audience was polled, more people in the audience thought that the next election would be nicer than this one, but panelist Howard Opinsky, the executive vice president and corporate advisory practice leader at Hill + Knowlton Strategies, disagreed. Opinsky said the media the public consumes is personalized, leading people to easily avoid conflicting opinions.

He said he believed that this would add to the nastiness of future elections because of its influence in polarizing Americans.

“You can live in your own universe and you’re only looking at the facts that support what you’re thinking,” Opinsky said.

2. Facts don’t matter

When asked if facts mattered in politics anymore, the panelists had mixed replies. Paul Waters, a program assistant at the Democracy Fund, said that facts did absolutely matter in politics, and the solution for getting people to pay attention to them was for the media and government to rebuild trust with the public.

A poll taken during the conversation showed that more than half of the audience didn’t believe the election was covered fairly during the election.

Brown, the GSPM interim director, said she thought the election wasn’t covered fairly because all coverage, good or bad, is still exposure which can increase name recognition. She added that Americans fight over facts because the country is polarized by the political system and does not interact with others of differing opinions.

“It is true that in most polls you can get somewhere between 15 and 20 percent of Americans to pretty much say that they agree with anything,” Brown said.

3. The future of politics

In their questions, alumni were interested in where the government was heading as well. One alumna asked if the whole election process couldn’t be shortened so that politicians would have more time to lead, and less time to campaign.

Sesno said that leaders in media have the power to retrain the public to not want the election coverage so early in the season.

The audience was also polled on whether or not they would encourage students to become public servants, with most of them responding positively. Waters said that local and state levels of government need good people and are important to the success of the country.

“Our democracy works only when we become a part of it,” Opinsky added.

Press also talked about the importance of being an engaged citizen in either the private or public sector, citing his own experiences.

“I studied for the priesthood for 10 years, but since then it has been my work in politics that I have found so fulfilling,” Press said. “I remain an optimist that we will survive what happens on Nov. 8.”

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The largest-ever single pledged gift to the School of Media and Public Affairs will fund an endowed professorship dedicated to accountability journalism, according to a University release.

Char Beales, a ’73 alumna and chair of the National Council for Media and Public Affairs, and her husband Howard Beales, the chair of the department of strategic management and public policy in the business school, pledged the $3.2 million endowed gift to SMPA through a bequest commitment from their estate.

Char Beales is the former president and CEO of of the Cable and Telecommunications Association for Marketing and is also a member of the Board of Directors for CTAM-Europe. Last year she helped to organize the school’s Silver Anniversary, setting fundraising goals and inviting alumni to the final event.

The Char Beales Endowed Professorship of Accountability in Journalism will be dedicated to the study and teaching of accuracy, accessibility and accountability in journalism.

“As a veteran media executive, Ms. Beales recognized the importance of maintaining high standards of accuracy and accountability in journalism, which has been made more challenging by the low barriers of entry for news outlets and the openness of the internet,” the release said.

University President Steven Knapp said in the release that the values of accuracy and accountability are key components of preserving democracy.

“We are deeply grateful to Char and Howard for their commitment to George Washington and their extraordinary generosity in making this splendid gift to the School of Media and Public Affairs,” Knapp said. “Accuracy and accountability in journalism are essential to the preservation of our democracy, and this new professorship will ensure that those values are studied and taught in the heart of our nation’s capital.”

Frank Sesno, the director of SMPA, said in the release that the Beales’ donation will support future generations of students and journalists at the school.

“The Beales Professorship is a tremendous expression of Char’s deep commitment to the future of journalism, GW and the School of Media and Public Affairs,” Sesno said. “It is an investment in the country itself because holding the powerful to account is a pillar of journalism and central to our democracy.”

Char Beales said that she and her husband hope the gift will motivate others to donate to the school.

“SMPA is on a trajectory to be a top-tier media school, and more support will make that happen more quickly,” Beales said. “We want this gift to inspire others to join us in supporting the university and SMPA.”

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Updated: Sept. 27, 2016 at 9:25 p.m.

This post was written by Hatchet reporter Roy Al Khechen.

Hundreds of students packed Dorothy Betts Marvin Theatre Monday night to watch Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump debate for the first time.

The event, hosted by the School of Media and Public Affairs, the GW College Democrats and the GW College Republicans, was bookended by discussions with a panel of political experts. The debate viewing was part of a series of events hosted by SMPA leading up to the presidential election called “Decision Time.”

Frank Sesno, the director of SMPA, opened the night asking the audience a series of questions about the presidential campaign and the media’s coverage. He asked the audience who was “pissed off” with the way the media has covered the election. When nearly every audience member’s hand was in the air, Sesno joked that it was “the only unanimous vote.”

Here are some of the best moments from the event:

1. Debate expectations

Before it began, panelists had varying expectations about what the debate would hold.

Ethan Porter, an assistant professor of media and public affairs, said that although the success of Trump’s campaign has been dependent on strong “emotional responses” from the candidate and his supporters, the Republican nominee could use the debate as a chance to highlight his policies.

“Trump might really surprise us with detailed policies,” Porter said. “All he has to do is not say something crazy.”

Allison Coukos, a junior and the director of public relations for the College Republicans, said both candidates could use the debate as an opportunity to improve their public images.

“This is both candidates’ chances to prove their critics wrong,” Coukos said. “For Trump, that means appearing presidential and not being baited into emotional responses, and for Clinton that means proving herself as a sympathetic, kind, trustworthy person.”

Students in the Dorothy Betts Marvin Theatre applaud the presidential candidates as they watch the debate on screen. Mike Shanahan | Hatchet Photographer

Students in the Dorothy Betts Marvin Theatre applaud the presidential candidates as they watch the debate on screen. Mike Shanahan | Hatchet Photographer

2. The role of media

Barett Pitner, a journalist who has covered race and politics for publications like the Daily Beast, said election media coverage is frustrating because it has allowed Trump to “set the agenda.”

Because Trump has received media attention, he has been able to frame himself as a winner, Pitner said.

“It’s clearly a narrative that Trump’s people want to put out there,” Pitner said. “He has campaigned as a genius. You know, he’s like the smartest guy. He’s so smart he doesn’t have to have real policies. That’s really what he’s been saying for about a year.”

Lara Brown, the director of the Graduate School of Political Management, said the media’s coverage of the debate will affect who people perceive as the winner.

“Research shows that most people who miss the debate or who are not politically involved still want to be a part of those water cooler conversations,” Brown said.

3. Who won?

The majority of the panelists said they felt that Clinton won the debate.

Porter said Trump should have used the debate to be more likable, but instead “came out the gate yelling at [Clinton].”

“He seemed to have a preparation problem. He didn’t seem aware that there was a split screen the whole time, so the visual was just Trump yelling,” Porter said.

Lande Watson, a junior and the president of the College Democrats, called Clinton the winner, applauding her demeanor throughout the debate, especially during Trump’s outbursts.

“Trump said all the scary things we’ve come to expect, which is good,” Watson said.

All of the panelists commended debate moderator Lester Holt, but Sesno said Holt should have been more specific when fact-checking Trump.

“What I felt Lester needed to do there was find a direct quote and read it out to him in front of everyone to say, ‘You said this, and this is when you said it,’” Sesno said.

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Friday, Aug. 26, 2016 10:03 a.m.

Jason Rezaian selected as SMPA fellow

A Washington Post reporter who spent more than a year in an Iranian prison was added to the list of distinguished Terker fellows in the School of Media and Public Affairs.

Jason Rezaian, a Washington Post reporter who reported on Iran until he was arrested in 2014 and sentenced to prison for espionage, was named the 2016-17 Terker fellow, according to a University release Thursday.

Rezaian, a U.S.-born Iranian-American, became a Washington Post bureau chief in 2012 after freelancing in Tehran since 2009. He covered Iran’s nuclear negotiations, the sanctions brought against the repressive regime and two presidential elections.

Rezaian and his wife were arrested after his home was raided in 2014. Rezaian spent 546 days in prison and was released in January of this year.

Frank Sesno, the director of SMPA, said in the release that Rezaian will bring “unique and invaluable perspective” to the school.

“His courage as a journalist and his commitment to telling the stories of Iran to the wider world will enlighten our students and illustrate the important role journalists play in informing and engaging our citizens,” Sesno said.

Rezaian said in the release that he will share his experiences about covering a controversial beat and living in a place that few American readers will ever experience firsthand.

“As a reporter who covered a key international beat and one that also experienced the very real threats faced by contemporary journalists, I hope to take part in an essential dialogue about reporting the news in a complicated world,” he said. “Particularly important to me is developing ways we can do our jobs more safely without lessening the power and scope of stories.”

Rezaian advises journalism students to spend time getting to know and understand the subjects of their stories, he said in the release.

“Focus on the stories of real people,” Rezaian said. “A big part of what we do, whether we are always conscious of it or not, is relaying the contemporary human experience.”

The SMPA Terker Distinguished Fellows program was established in 2010 by Bruce and Cindy Terker to bring media, political communication and public affairs professionals to SMPA every year.

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The Department of Energy will award $430,000 to the GW’s Solar Institute to fund a two-year education project, according to a release Thursday.

Working in partnership with GW Planet Forward and the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, the Solar Institute will develop a series of multimedia materials to educate firefighters, real estate agents, financiers and others about solar energy.

Amit Ronen, the director of the Solar Institute, said in the release that as solar energy becomes more popular, it is necessary to educate people about its benefits and risks. For example, firefighters may need training to know how to put out a fire on a rooftop solar panel, he said.

“We know our target audiences are super busy and don’t have the time or patience to sit through a day long training, so our goal is to use cutting-edge multimedia tools that will provide them with concise information in accessible and entertaining formats,” Ronen said.

The award comes from the Department of Energy’s SunShot Initiative, a $10 million project aimed at educating the public about solar energy. The project will connect veterans with jobs in the solar industry through the Solar Ready Vets program.

The multimedia series funded through the grant will include educational and entertaining videos to explain topics that the Solar Institute will choose via a survey. The videos will be available to the public on the Solar Institute’s website.

Students and participants of Planet Forward, founded by School of Media and Public Affairs Director Frank Sesno, will produce and edit videos.

“Storytelling can have immense impact to communicate information, best practices and the excitement of innovation,” Sesno said in a release. “Nowhere is this more apparent than in the story of solar, which is changing the energy landscape.”

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Monday, Feb. 29, 2016 8:55 p.m.

Cooper talks politics, sexuality at Lisner

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper speaks to School of Media and Public Affairs Director Frank Sesno outside Lisner Auditorium Monday. Desiree Halpern | Photo Editor

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper speaks to School of Media and Public Affairs Director Frank Sesno. Desiree Halpern | Photo Editor

This post was written by Hatchet reporter Joseph Politano.

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper found himself answering questions instead of asking them Monday, when he spoke in front of a full house in Lisner Auditorium with School of Media and Public Affairs director Frank Sesno.

The award-winning reporter discussed his experiences covering difficult topics in journalism and politics and his role as an openly gay media figure. The conversation touched on topics like the 2016 election, Hurricane Katrina, and wars in the Middle East, and was sponsored by SMPA and the student group Allied in Pride.

Before introducing Cooper, Sesno announced a screening of the Oscar-winning film Spotlight, which won for Best Picture Sunday night. Two of the journalists depicted in the film will be present at the April 14 screening, including Marty Baron, the current executive editor of The Washington Post.

Sesno also announced a $50,000 gift recently donated to SMPA by an alumnus for the Career Access Network, which officially started last semester.

Here are some takeaways from the conversation:

1. Challenging facts, not opinions

Cooper, who had just come from an interview with Melania Trump, the wife of presidential candidate Donald Trump, explained the challenges and merits of interviewing people with controversial viewpoints.

Cooper said he prefers to confront interviewees on facts rather than differing ideological stances. He shared his experience visiting a Pizza Hut with a group of Neo-Nazis.

Anderson Cooper in Lisner Auditorium on Feb. 29, 2016. Desiree Halpern | Photo Editor

Anderson Cooper shared his experiences as one of CNN’s top anchors. Desiree Halpern | Photo Editor

“Obviously, these are people who I do not share their opinions, and they clearly do not share my various interests,” Cooper said. “But I don’t believe in necessarily confronting someone just because I disagree with them.”

2. ‘The greatest blessing’

Cooper, who came out publicly in 2012, is one of the few openly gay figures in the news media. He said there were challenges in being a gay member of the media, but that he felt he was a better journalist because of his sexuality.

“I think being gay for me is one of the greatest blessings of my life,” Cooper said. “It’s made me such a better person than I would have otherwise been.”

He said his sexuality has given him a unique vantage point of society, allowing him to better understand privilege and marginalizations than if he were straight.

“I would have been a child of privilege, with all the advantages of that privilege, without perhaps much of an understanding of what discrimination is like or an understanding of what limitations are like,” Cooper said.

3. An age of information

Cooper told the audience that the massive amount of information currently available puts them in a position to educate themselves about the world better than those from past generations.

He said while many refer to the days of Walter Cronkite as “the golden age of news,” that the in-depth, constant reporting by networks like his own CNN are more thorough, even if not everyone is watching the hour-long documentaries that he and others put out.

“You have the ability to be more educated than any previous generation in history, and I think that’s an extraordinary thing,” Cooper said. “For all of our hand-wringing and looking back, we’re doing hours and hours of discussion on the minutia of politics every single night.”

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Frank Sesno, the director of the School of Media and Public Affairs, moderated a panel on media trends in presidential election coverage. Olivia Anderson | Hatchet Photographer

Frank Sesno, the director of the School of Media and Public Affairs, moderated a panel on media trends in presidential election coverage. Olivia Anderson | Hatchet Photographer

This post was written by Hatchet reporter Elise Zaidi.

The College Democrats hosted a panel on trends in the 2016 election for an audience of about 60 people in the Marvin Center Tuesday night. Frank Sesno, the director of the School of Media and Public Affairs and former CNN anchor, moderated the panel made up of journalists and political scientists.

As the election season heats up, here’s what the panelists said to keep in mind:

1. The digital age requires bolder candidates

Samuel Goldman, a contributor for the American Conservative, said the digital age has sparked an interest in more revolutionary, outspoken candidates like Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. and Donald Trump, who do not display signs of “manufactured authenticity.”

“A great part of Sanders’ appeal, and this is why I think he is similar to Trump, is that he really seems to say what he believes; he considers himself a socialist and is happy to tell you about it. That is refreshing as other candidates have become increasingly robotic and scripted,” Goldman said.

Multiple 2016 candidates seem to be succeeding in their campaigns based on celebrity appeal and outspokenness than on the support of their parties, the panelists said.

Lara Brown, an associate professor in the Graduate School of Political Management, has conducted a study on how presidential candidates are discussed and how politicians’ messages affect mainstream and social media. She said during the course of Tuesday’s event that Trump had gotten more than 54 million “mentions” in the media.

2. Moderates take a backseat to polarizing candidates

The panelists discussed the ways a polarizing candidate like Sanders is able to stand as a serious contender to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Goldman said Clinton is struggling to maintain her appeal as “a relatively neutral executor of policy,” in a time where the national mood seems to be favoring radical change.

Richard Skinner, an analyst at the Sunlight Foundation, said appealing to younger audiences has been key for Democrats.

“More than anything else, Sanders has shown a lot of appeal to the millennial generation,” Skinner said. “This is a very left wing generation, this is a generation that was formed by the Iraq War and the financial crisis. The term socialism is not scary to them.”

3. Election as entertainment

Sesno, the director of SMPA, said the current election is less focused on presenting facts than it is on providing audiences with reality television-style entertainment.

“I have never seen anything like this, I have never heard rhetoric like this, I have never heard a level of disrespect like this,” Sesno said.

Sesno added that the media, which is meant to provide relatively equal coverage of all candidates now willingly provides hot-button candidates, like Trump and Sanders, with more air time based on the minute-to-minute ratings thos figures can bring.

He said that, fair or not, if a “30 minute phone call with Trump” gets higher ratings than an in-person interview with any other candidate, the phone call will go on the air.

“We are following the public more than we are leading the public in journalism,” Sesno said.

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Nancy Pelosi spoke at the Jack Morton Auditorium Tuesday morning. Jordan McDonald | Hatchet Staff Photographer

Nancy Pelosi spoke at the Jack Morton Auditorium Tuesday morning. Jordan McDonald | Hatchet Staff Photographer

This post was written by Hatchet reporter Pim Anukularmphai.

House of Representatives Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi discussed her experience in governing Tuesday afternoon in the Jack Morton Auditorium.

Just hours before the discussion, congressional leaders reached a tentative budget deal for the next year. Pelosi said the first word that came to mind was “hurray!” because the budget maintains current allocations for disabilities and Medicare spending, and equally divides defense and domestic expenditures.

“Our strength is measured in the education and innovation of our people,” she said.

School of Media and Public Affairs Director Frank Sesno, a former White House and CNN correspondent, moderated the conversation.

Couldn’t skip class for the event? Here’s what you missed:

1. What’s in it for me?

In a discussion about the polls for the 2016 presidential election, Pelosi said Americans will vote for who they believe can “end the inequality in our system.”

“At the end of the day, it’s all personal. We’re asking ourselves, ‘what does this mean for me?'” she said, in regard to choosing whether or not to support a candidate’s politics.

Pelosi gave a nod to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton when Senso asked what the elections mean for Pelosi.

“I will be happy to relinquish my title as the highest ranking woman in America,” Pelosi said.

2. Climate change is everyone’s responsibility

Pelosi said every nation should “do what they can” to be proactive about environmental issues.

She said the responsibility has fallen on third-world countries, which are disproportionately impacted by global warming, to prepare for higher tides, temperatures and volatile weather, but Pelosi said she wants to change that.

At the United Nations Climate Change Conference, which will be held later this month in Paris, Pelosi said she would advocate for environmental legislation that would not be “just pretty words” but have the “force of law” behind it.

3. Social media increases transparency

Pelosi said social media has given the public greater access to politics, which she said has increased transparency within the political process.

Referring to the fact that the public was informed of the budget’s passing within minutes Monday night, Sesno asked Pelosi how the role of social media has impacted politics.

“People knew what was going on because they were paying attention,” she said.

Sesno also asked if Pelosi supports Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., who she said has been a transparent political figure in his bid for Speaker of the House.

“I have the institution’s back,” she said.

Pelosi commended Ryan’s support of the latest budget proposal and his criticism of the House Freedom Caucus, a conservative group of congressmen, which she said would give Ryan “running room” with the Democrats in his campaign for Speaker of the House.

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Journalist Jorge Ramos sat down with SMPA director Frank Sesno to discuss politics. Craig Hudson | Hatchet Photographer

Journalist Jorge Ramos sat down with SMPA director Frank Sesno to discuss politics. Craig Hudson | Hatchet Photographer

This post was written by Hatchet reporters Aishvarya Kavi and Brandon Bish

Journalist Jorge Ramos visited Jack Morton Auditorium Thursday morning to discuss activism, politics and his recent confrontation with presidential hopeful Donald Trump.

At a press conference with Trump last month, Ramos, a news anchor on the Spanish-language television program Univision, stood up and began asking a question about immigration reform when Trump told him to sit down and called on another reporter.

When Frank Sesno, the director of the School of Media and Public Affairs, mentioned how critics have accused Ramos of overstepping his role as a journalist into the realm of activism, Ramos said it is necessary to ask tough questions.

“As a journalist, it’s not only appropriate, but it is your duty to challenge those who are in power when it comes to discrimination, racism, corruption, public lies, dictatorships or human rights,” Ramos said.

Ramos, who was born and raised in Mexico, said that with 60 million Latinos in the United States, candidates in the 2016 presidential election will need support from a majority of the Latino community to win.

He added that the only two Latino candidates, Republicans Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, who both have parents that immigrated from Cuba, should be defending other immigrants.

When Sesno questioned what Ramos would ask Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, Ramos said he would be equally tough on her.

“Our role is not to support any candidate, our role is to question every single candidate,” he said.

Attending the event was celebrity chef José Andrés, who backed out of plans to open a restaurant in Trump’s upcoming D.C. hotel in July because of Trump’s comments about immigrants.

Ramos, who called Andrés “a very brave man,” asked him to come on stage and speak about immigration reform for undocumented immigrants. Andrés briefly discussed how immigrants that work in the U.S. should be legalized so they can be paid for their work.

Toward the end of the conversation, Ramos was asked what advice he would give to aspiring journalists.

“Don’t shut up, don’t sit down and don’t get out,” he said. “Just speak up.”

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